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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHj2MZm6I6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FKHYRcZylM

Right after the gas embargo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHoeIvb8I4

The oil companies got greedy and raised the prices of gas and then the cars became underpowered to save fuel.  

It almost put the big three Auto makers out of business.  They could not compete with the imports.
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(03-27-2021, 08:45 PM)=42 Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 08:02 PM)FlyoverCountry Wrote: My truck will burn it but the manual says expect worse mpg

It has less energy. Tuners wanting to increase HP will convert to ethanol, but they have to get higher volume fuel pumps and larger injectors. The advantages and gains are realized by the higher volumes of ethanol absorbing more heat in the cylinders allowing the engines to run cooler.
Which is the lost leader that the government leaders are buying off on to make us all use it.
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My car was fine until the government got ahold of it.  But not according to Ralph Nader and his unsafe at any speed.  Chevrolet Corvair.

https://www.thedrive.com/article/10503/t...ing-lights

Now we have this great idea of all time lights of some kind day or night, whether we know whether they are actually on or not.  

Some are automatic and some are not.

Yet another false sense of security just like taking a jab or wearing a mask or “helping the environment” with ethanol.
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#24
Relax, I’m driving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQR5ktq7W0
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(03-27-2021, 08:00 PM)counterintelligence Wrote: Our corn flavored gas we call ethanol is actually more expensive to make than regular gas and is inefficient right from the production.  But yet our government embraces environmental insanity.  It costs more, but in some states it is subsidized to become the choice fuel.  But what about the cost to the consumer?  Cars about the middle of the 2000s were gearing up their cars with biofuel or flex fuel engines.  Had a tough enough time getting the carburators to Run right that now we have computerized electronic fuel injection to take either real or fake gas and the gas mileage goes back down.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_HPJC07zk

CORN: it gives you gas.  Chuckle

I even heard that the fuel tankers had to be reequipped because the ethanol was eating up the rubber.  And so the same thing happens to your older cars.  Then there’s powering the whole grid with solar and wind in order to save the environment.  While computers and other electronics had been made more energy efficient, people like Bill Gates think everything runs on a computer and electricity and we don’t need the coal/fossil fuel anymore.

I think the government needs to brought up to speed and we need to start sending them all the repair bills for their short sighted energy efficiency/environmental outreach.  Maybe they’ll quit causing the cost of everything to go up like our food being used as biofuel.

Our government and the ruling elite need to get the finer points of their stupid little ideas that they don’t adhere to.  Class warfare.  Got to always have the upper hand these worthless clowns.
I believe I have heard that the environmental and human toll incurred to produce (and dispose of) all our wonderful gadgets far outstrips that from the usual suspects i.e. coal/gas. Especially when it comes to child labor i.e. mining for elements in Africa.
That’s My King! —Dr. S.M. Lockridge, Official https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTFNfeDnE
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(03-27-2021, 09:06 PM)Verity Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 08:00 PM)counterintelligence Wrote: Our corn flavored gas we call ethanol is actually more expensive to make than regular gas and is inefficient right from the production.  But yet our government embraces environmental insanity.  It costs more, but in some states it is subsidized to become the choice fuel.  But what about the cost to the consumer?  Cars about the middle of the 2000s were gearing up their cars with biofuel or flex fuel engines.  Had a tough enough time getting the carburators to Run right that now we have computerized electronic fuel injection to take either real or fake gas and the gas mileage goes back down.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_HPJC07zk

CORN: it gives you gas.  Chuckle

I even heard that the fuel tankers had to be reequipped because the ethanol was eating up the rubber.  And so the same thing happens to your older cars.  Then there’s powering the whole grid with solar and wind in order to save the environment.  While computers and other electronics had been made more energy efficient, people like Bill Gates think everything runs on a computer and electricity and we don’t need the coal/fossil fuel anymore.

I think the government needs to brought up to speed and we need to start sending them all the repair bills for their short sighted energy efficiency/environmental outreach.  Maybe they’ll quit causing the cost of everything to go up like our food being used as biofuel.

Our government and the ruling elite need to get the finer points of their stupid little ideas that they don’t adhere to.  Class warfare.  Got to always have the upper hand these worthless clowns.
I believe I have heard that the environmental and human toll incurred to produce (and dispose of) all our wonderful gadgets far outstrips that from the usual suspects i.e. coal/gas. Especially when it comes to child labor i.e. mining for elements in Africa.
They want the plastic that comes out of it.  And most of that doesn't even biodegrade, some of it gets recycled.  But they want that more than the gasoline, and even go more for the diesel. Practically use carrot juice for diesel.
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(03-27-2021, 09:12 PM)counterintelligence Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 09:06 PM)Verity Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 08:00 PM)counterintelligence Wrote: Our corn flavored gas we call ethanol is actually more expensive to make than regular gas and is inefficient right from the production.  But yet our government embraces environmental insanity.  It costs more, but in some states it is subsidized to become the choice fuel.  But what about the cost to the consumer?  Cars about the middle of the 2000s were gearing up their cars with biofuel or flex fuel engines.  Had a tough enough time getting the carburators to Run right that now we have computerized electronic fuel injection to take either real or fake gas and the gas mileage goes back down.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_HPJC07zk

CORN: it gives you gas.  Chuckle

I even heard that the fuel tankers had to be reequipped because the ethanol was eating up the rubber.  And so the same thing happens to your older cars.  Then there’s powering the whole grid with solar and wind in order to save the environment.  While computers and other electronics had been made more energy efficient, people like Bill Gates think everything runs on a computer and electricity and we don’t need the coal/fossil fuel anymore.

I think the government needs to brought up to speed and we need to start sending them all the repair bills for their short sighted energy efficiency/environmental outreach.  Maybe they’ll quit causing the cost of everything to go up like our food being used as biofuel.

Our government and the ruling elite need to get the finer points of their stupid little ideas that they don’t adhere to.  Class warfare.  Got to always have the upper hand these worthless clowns.
I believe I have heard that the environmental and human toll incurred to produce (and dispose of) all our wonderful gadgets far outstrips that from the usual suspects i.e. coal/gas. Especially when it comes to child labor i.e. mining for elements in Africa.
They want the plastic that comes out of it.  And most of that doesn't even biodegrade, some of it gets recycled.  But they want that more than the gasoline, and even go more for the diesel.  Practically use carrot juice for diesel.
Yes, of course. Plastic is such a scourge.  Scream1
That’s My King! —Dr. S.M. Lockridge, Official https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTFNfeDnE
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#28
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fourteen-u-states-sue-biden-165046038.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_04

14 states sue Joe Biden over oil and gas pause.

"We believe that the president's actions are illegal and unlawful, and we're going to hold him accountable for them to try to make sure that the gains that we've made over the years to help protect domestic oil and gas and energy continue," Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry said in an interview.

A coalition of 13 states filed one lawsuit in federal court in Louisiana, while Wyoming filed its own lawsuit in federal court in that state.
The states joining Louisiana's lawsuit included Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah and West Virginia. All have Republican attorneys general. Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards is a Democrat.



The lawsuits allege the administration's leasing pause violates the Mineral Leasing Act that requires quarterly lease sales.
In its lawsuit, Wyoming said the administration was also required to conduct an environmental review of the leasing suspension under the National Environmental Policy Act before taking action.
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(03-27-2021, 08:49 PM)counterintelligence Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 08:45 PM)=42 Wrote:
(03-27-2021, 08:02 PM)FlyoverCountry Wrote: My truck will burn it but the manual says expect worse mpg

It has less energy. Tuners wanting to increase HP will convert to ethanol, but they have to get higher volume fuel pumps and larger injectors. The advantages and gains are realized by the higher volumes of ethanol absorbing more heat in the cylinders allowing the engines to run cooler.
Which is the lost leader that the government leaders are buying off on to make us all use it.

I should have clarified my comments above refer to E85 which not as widely available as E15.

The idea of using corn or other crops to replace gasoline is ridiculous in many ways including creating a demand that competes with animal feed thus driving up the cost and even if they used 100% of the crop land (stop growing food for humans) they won't come close to meeting demand for fuel. 

E85 (Flex Fuel)
E85 is the most common form of flex fuel available on the market. Because ethanol is corn-based, E85 gas is readily available in the Midwest region of the United States. It's less available in other regions, especially New England and the Pacific Northwest. According to the U.S. Department of Energy, there are 3300 E85 gas stations available to the public across 42 states. Outside the United States, ethanol producers often use alternative crops. In Brazil, sugar cane is a prominent source of ethanol.
Research by the U.S. Energy Information Administration shows that pure ethanol has a lower heating value than gasoline, so it makes it harder to start a car's engine in areas with a cold climate. This difficulty in cold cranking is why ethanol blends contain a fraction of gasoline. E85 gas is suitable for use in any vehicle designated as a flex-fuel vehicle by the manufacturer. Cars.com reports that flex-fuel vehicles are capable of running on both ethanol-gasoline blends and regular gasoline. Consumers can use the Department of Energy's vehicle cost calculator to determine how much a flex-fuel vehicle can save on fuel costs and greenhouse gas emissions.
Because of Brazil's relatively warmer climate, gas stations in that country can sell pure ethanol. Flex-fuel vehicles in Brazil run on E100 as opposed to the E85 that is for sale in most parts of the world. Fuel sold as E100 is always 100 percent ethanol, while fuel sold as E85 always contains 85 percent ethanol. Using a guaranteed fraction of ethanol makes it easier for a vehicle to reach peak performance and fuel economy.
In Austalia, E85 is the preferred fuel among motor racing clubs and sports car enthusiasts. The motor racing industry has always preferred ethanol- or methanol-based fuels because these fuels tend to give performance vehicles more thermal efficiency and increased torque. In an advanced engine, E85 can improve the engine's fuel consumption.
In the United States, the government has tried to encourage the production and sale of E85 by providing subsidies, particularly to corn producers in the Midwest. In 2016, the installation of new ethanol infrastructure began in 20 states, thanks to a $210 million grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. This new infrastructure will make E15 and E85 more readily available across the country.
When fueling their flex-fuel vehicles with E85 instead of regular gasoline, drivers won't notice many differences other than a decrease in miles per gallon. Compared to gasoline, ethanol provides less energy per gallon, meaning that the higher the percentage of ethanol, the more significant the impact on fuel economy.
Depending on the driver's location and the ups and downs of the energy markets, the cost of E85 can vary greatly, especially when compared to regular gasoline and E10. While E85 gas costs less than regular gasoline at the pump, the decrease in miles per gallon makes it more expensive when driving. Despite the lower miles per gallon, flex-fuel vehicles often put out more torque and more horsepower when running on E85 instead of regular gasoline.

https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a31851426/what-is-e85-gas/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhOEoXfxHMc
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