Russia vs Ukraine
#1
I've been watching this for about a week now and waiting for a US media report.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04...ine-video/

What's happened is Ukraine cut off the water supply to Crimea which was deliberately provocative since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.

And that was because the neocons led by Vicki Nuland, Robert Kagan's wife, was US Ambassador to Ukraine under Obama. Ukraine is the ancient homeland of the Khazarian people, which is who the neocons are, which is why they had a clever scheme for that. And the reason why the Muslim Obama let them do that I suspect is because the neocons who incidentally are the powerful Jewish forces in the US political and defence establishments, the ones who wrote the "seven countries in seven years" memorandum, those neocons. So those neocons said, I suspect, to Obama, you let us do Ukraine our way, and we'll let you do what you want with Iran. I'm interpolating but that hypothesis fits the optics of how things rolled in those two places. Given for example the Jewish influence over Democrat politicians you'd have thought they could have put up stiff opposition to that Iranian policy, but they never did, it was just words from the Israeli PM. How peculiar. Plus that's also I suspect why Joe was put in charge of Ukraine, he'd just let the neocons have a free reign while he looted the USAID funds in his usual style.

Anyway, fast forward to today and the neocons under Joebama are back in charge and in a few short months we now have a critical situation. Watch for Joebama neocon's next move by sending Nato forces into Ukraine.
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(04-01-2021, 09:08 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: I've been watching this for about a week now and waiting for a US media report.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04...ine-video/

What's happened is Ukraine cut off the water supply to Crimea which was deliberately provocative since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.

And that was because the neocons led by Vicki Nuland, Robert Kagan's wife, was US Ambassador to Ukraine under Obama. Ukraine is the ancient homeland of the Khazarian people, which is who the neocons are, which is why they had a clever scheme for that. And the reason why the Muslim Obama let them do that I suspect is because the neocons who incidentally are the powerful Jewish forces in the US political and defence establishments, the ones who wrote the "seven countries in seven years" memorandum, those neocons. So those neocons said, I suspect, to Obama, you let us do Ukraine our way, and we'll let you do what you want with Iran. I'm interpolating but that hypothesis fits the optics of how things rolled in those two places. That's also I suspect why Joe was put in charge of Ukraine, he'd just let the neocons have a free reign while he looted the USAID funds in his usual style.

Anyway, fast forward to today and the neocons under Joebama are back in charge and in a few short months we now have a critical situation. Watch for Joebama neocon's next move by sending Nato forces into Ukraine.

I've been posting some Ukraine vs. Russia stuff here.

https://www.beyond-the-fringe.com/showthread.php?tid=10494&highlight=fsu

Things have been heating up there for awhile. The Russians "capturing" Crimea was as simple as going outside and changing the flag. The Russian's influence on Crimea predates the Soviet Union and it is vital to their Black Sea Fleet. They would never allow it to be "taken over" by a hostile Ukraine.

The bridge over the Kerch Strait has been complete for some time now and I believe that pipelines for water are under construction.

The Ukrainians are unfortunately being used as a proxy to poke the bear by the EU & US with Soros organizing the color revolution that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government and soured its relationship with Russia.

 Definitely worth keeping an eye on. If there is any reporting on it at all in the US it is obviously slanted.
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(04-01-2021, 09:43 PM)=42 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 09:08 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: I've been watching this for about a week now and waiting for a US media report.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04...ine-video/

What's happened is Ukraine cut off the water supply to Crimea which was deliberately provocative since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.

And that was because the neocons led by Vicki Nuland, Robert Kagan's wife, was US Ambassador to Ukraine under Obama. Ukraine is the ancient homeland of the Khazarian people, which is who the neocons are, which is why they had a clever scheme for that. And the reason why the Muslim Obama let them do that I suspect is because the neocons who incidentally are the powerful Jewish forces in the US political and defence establishments, the ones who wrote the "seven countries in seven years" memorandum, those neocons. So those neocons said, I suspect, to Obama, you let us do Ukraine our way, and we'll let you do what you want with Iran. I'm interpolating but that hypothesis fits the optics of how things rolled in those two places. That's also I suspect why Joe was put in charge of Ukraine, he'd just let the neocons have a free reign while he looted the USAID funds in his usual style.

Anyway, fast forward to today and the neocons under Joebama are back in charge and in a few short months we now have a critical situation. Watch for Joebama neocon's next move by sending Nato forces into Ukraine.

I've been posting some Ukraine vs. Russia stuff here.

https://www.beyond-the-fringe.com/showthread.php?tid=10494&highlight=fsu

Things have been heating up there for awhile. The Russians "capturing" Crimea was as simple as going outside and changing the flag. The Russian's influence on Crimea predates the Soviet Union and it is vital to their Black Sea Fleet. They would never allow it to be "taken over" by a hostile Ukraine.

The bridge over the Kerch Strait has been complete for some time now and I believe that pipelines for water are under construction.

The Ukrainians are unfortunately being used as a proxy to poke the bear by the EU & US with Soros organizing the color revolution that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government and soured its relationship with Russia.

 Definitely worth keeping an eye on. If there is any reporting on it at all in the US it is obviously slanted.

Fake media hasn't told anyone that Crimea was always part of ancient Russia but Stalin the Georgian gifted it to Ukraine in I think 1936.

Just like Putin shut down Georgia when they tried it on and just like he shut down the Wahabbist insurgency in Chechnya, he's shutting down this Ukrainian movement which the neocons are behind.

The neocons want the West to become involved, this is why they're doing what they're doing.

I will merge this thread with yours after this post.
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#4
Now we just can’t have the Russians supplying Europe with gas now can we? Same story, different day.
I’ve been looking at this since 2016. 
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Looks like the good guys maybe have lost all control to me. It very well may go to WW3 this time.
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#6
People really need to pay attention to this.
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(04-01-2021, 10:04 PM)Dr Evil Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 09:43 PM)=42 Wrote:
(04-01-2021, 09:08 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: I've been watching this for about a week now and waiting for a US media report.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04...ine-video/

What's happened is Ukraine cut off the water supply to Crimea which was deliberately provocative since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.

And that was because the neocons led by Vicki Nuland, Robert Kagan's wife, was US Ambassador to Ukraine under Obama. Ukraine is the ancient homeland of the Khazarian people, which is who the neocons are, which is why they had a clever scheme for that. And the reason why the Muslim Obama let them do that I suspect is because the neocons who incidentally are the powerful Jewish forces in the US political and defence establishments, the ones who wrote the "seven countries in seven years" memorandum, those neocons. So those neocons said, I suspect, to Obama, you let us do Ukraine our way, and we'll let you do what you want with Iran. I'm interpolating but that hypothesis fits the optics of how things rolled in those two places. That's also I suspect why Joe was put in charge of Ukraine, he'd just let the neocons have a free reign while he looted the USAID funds in his usual style.

Anyway, fast forward to today and the neocons under Joebama are back in charge and in a few short months we now have a critical situation. Watch for Joebama neocon's next move by sending Nato forces into Ukraine.

I've been posting some Ukraine vs. Russia stuff here.

https://www.beyond-the-fringe.com/showthread.php?tid=10494&highlight=fsu

Things have been heating up there for awhile. The Russians "capturing" Crimea was as simple as going outside and changing the flag. The Russian's influence on Crimea predates the Soviet Union and it is vital to their Black Sea Fleet. They would never allow it to be "taken over" by a hostile Ukraine.

The bridge over the Kerch Strait has been complete for some time now and I believe that pipelines for water are under construction.

The Ukrainians are unfortunately being used as a proxy to poke the bear by the EU & US with Soros organizing the color revolution that overthrew the elected Ukrainian government and soured its relationship with Russia.

 Definitely worth keeping an eye on. If there is any reporting on it at all in the US it is obviously slanted.

Fake media hasn't told anyone that Crimea was always part of ancient Russia but Stalin the Georgian gifted it to Ukraine in I think 1936.

Just like Putin shut down Georgia when they tried it on and just like he shut down the Wahabbist insurgency in Chechnya, he's shutting down this Ukrainian movement which the neocons are behind.

The neocons want the West to become involved, this is why they're doing what they're doing.

I will merge this thread with yours after this post.

You can merge if you like. The way things are going a separate thread may be appropriate.   1dunno1
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OK let's keep going on here.

I obviously have a different take on this situation having read your thread. I don't think this is a civil war, that's what fake news wants us to think but it ain't, as usual, true.

But I'm sorry @=42 I didn't mean to divert your one, I didn't know as it slipped by me in the lobby. It's an important issue tho ain't it, and I think it'll be hitting mainstream not too long away...
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(04-01-2021, 10:37 PM)Dr Evil Wrote: OK let's keep going on here.

I obviously have a different take on this situation having read your thread. I don't think this is a civil war, that's what fake news wants us to think but it ain't, as usual, true.

But I'm sorry @=42 I didn't mean to divert your one, I didn't know as it slipped by me in the lobby. It's an important issue tho ain't it, and I think it'll be hitting mainstream not too long away...

No worries!   Drinks

I would have to go back and look at the context I used the term civil war in. The conflict is contained within the boarders of Ukraine and initially there was resistance from people who are technically Ukrainian by residence, but identify as Russian ethnically (like many scenarios in the Balkans) in the Donetsk and Donbas regions. I guess it could be viewed as a civil war between the western 2/3 +/- of Ukraine backed by the west vs. the eastern 1/3 +/- of Ukraine backed by Russia or a proxy war between the west & Russia with Ukraine providing the battlefield and most of the manpower.  1dunno1
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#10
Sorry to put a couple simple images on this but I tend to be simple sometimes. I know this is about Russia and Ukraine but the big picture may be more recognizable in these images. 
This is also about Syria, Iran, Saudi, Yemen, Turkey, USA, and most importantly, supplying Europe.
[Image: 491DXew.jpg]

[Image: KU99Ruk.png]

Notice the top image doesn’t have a pipeline proposed through Ukraine? Notice the more direct route from Russia to Europe?
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