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Prediction: this thread will be a mess.
I doubt anyone will agrue with that.

Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.

My thinking is that earth, aka Terra, was created by a female aeon: Sophia, Gaia, Mother Earth.
It was, maybe, don't quote me, an experiment or play station or whatever, that explored life.
Another aeon, the male Uranus, was born from Sophia. He became Father Sky. Some mythologists equate him with Yahweh, the jealous and always angry god of the Old Testament.

Gaia also bore an even more malignant being, the Demiurge, who created the Archons we associate with demons.

See? Just when you think I can't add more crazy conspiracy stuff, ta da!
I see the original design of this realm as a Garden of Eden. 
Not the one claimed to belong to the Sumerian myths of Anunnaki gods.

It was a gentle, peaceful place. a golden age. Bigfoot was a fruitarian probably.
Lions lay down with lambs, etc.

But then, a militant presence intruded. Uranus? Demiurge? Enlil?
The Titans made wars, Trojans made wars, Tartarians, etc.
And here we are, working hard to start a new one.

[Munchaab]

Prediction: this thread will be a mess.
I doubt anyone will agrue with that.

Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.

My thinking is that earth, aka Terra, was created by a female aeon: Sophia, Gaia, Mother Earth.
It was, maybe, don't quote me, an experiment or play station or whatever, that explored life.
Another aeon, the male Uranus, was born from Sophia. He became Father Sky. Some mythologists equate him with Yahweh, the jealous and always angry god of the Old Testament.

Gaia also bore an even more malignant being, the Demiurge, who created the Archons we associate with demons.

See? Just when you think I can't add more crazy conspiracy stuff, ta da!
I see the original design of this realm as a Garden of Eden. 
Not the one claimed to belong to the Sumerian myths of Anunnaki gods.

It was a gentle, peaceful place. a golden age. Bigfoot was a fruitarian probably.
Lions lay down with lambs, etc.

But then, a militant presence intruded. Uranus? Demiurge? Enlil?
The Titans made wars, Trojans made wars, Tartarians, etc.
And here we are, working hard to start a new one.

Have you read "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin..?

If so, what did you think of it..?

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Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.


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Have you read "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin..?

If so, what did you think of it..?
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I've read all of Sitchin's books, including "The Lost Book of Enki."
It's a work of fiction, speculative and imaginative, unlike his other books which were based on research.

I respect ZS's interpretations and many of his conclusions, as I do Velikovsky's. 
They did not, unfortunately, investigate or question the astronomy which was a major part of their studies.

[Munchaab]

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Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.

Have you read "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin..?

If so, what did you think of it..?

I've read all of Sitchin's books, including "The Lost Book of Enki."
It's a work of fiction, speculative and imaginative, unlike his other books which were based on research.

I respect ZS's interpretations and many of his conclusions, as I do Velikovsky's. 
They did not, unfortunately, investigate or question the astronomy which was a major part of their studies.

I agree with that, mostly, with the exception that Velikovsky's astronomical observation/suppositions about Venus having been a rogue planet/comet...

He argued that Venus, due to how he supposed it came to be, would have the unlikely/denied/denigrated (at the time) qualities of atmosphere, rotation, temperature and pressures etc, that we now KNOW due to better technology for astronomical observation to be true - he was vindicated, yet is still mostly denigrated...

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Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.

Have you read "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin..?

If so, what did you think of it..?

I've read all of Sitchin's books, including "The Lost Book of Enki."
It's a work of fiction, speculative and imaginative, unlike his other books which were based on research.

I respect ZS's interpretations and many of his conclusions, as I do Velikovsky's. 
They did not, unfortunately, investigate or question the astronomy which was a major part of their studies.

I agree with that, mostly, with the exception that Velikovsky's astronomical observation/suppositions about Venus having been a rogue planet/comet...

He argued that Venus, due to how he supposed it came to be, would have the unlikely/denied/denigrated (at the time) qualities of atmosphere, rotation, temperature and pressures etc, that we now KNOW due to better technology for astronomical observation to be true - he was vindicated, yet is still mostly denigrated...

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starting over....
I must quarrel about "better technology for astronomical observation"
as I don't think that space-roving satellites exist. But that is a topic for another thread.

I do have good confidence in Immanuel Velikovsky's history, but I reject his astronomy, which of course trusted the scientific community at that time.

For example, IV claimed that Venus was born from Jupiter as a comet.
She regularly scourged the world with fire and brimstone and fought with Mars.
Mountains were upheavaled, burning naphtha rained down on the world.

Yet humans somehow witnessed and survived the recurring catastrophes?

True laws of physics prohibit the forces that would be involved in such extravagant 'worlds in collision.'

No. Far more likely is that Advanced Beings fought each other with energy weapons.
Our deserts are their doing.
When I say 'ancient' I refer to a time not that long ago. Perhaps a hundred years.
Biblical giants, Hindu gods on flying carpets, Jack and the Beanstalk -- other myths and fairy tales told to children -- were based on real observations, then passed on to us as silly works of fiction.

[Munchaab]

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[quote pid='717571' dateline='1679240478']

Because.........as Lloyd Pye wrote, Everything You Know Is Wrong.
Mr. Pye was kind enough to correspond with me years ago, before his untimely death.
He introduced me to ct. Real ct. Critical thinking.
His main interest was Bigfoot. aaahhh, what an awful derogatory name.
I prefer Homo terrestris, the true man of earth.
This gentle being was bio-engineered by Enki, the Anunnaki, to domesticate human slaves.

Have you read "The Lost Book of Enki" by Zecharia Sitchin..?

If so, what did you think of it..?

I've read all of Sitchin's books, including "The Lost Book of Enki."
It's a work of fiction, speculative and imaginative, unlike his other books which were based on research.

I respect ZS's interpretations and many of his conclusions, as I do Velikovsky's. 
They did not, unfortunately, investigate or question the astronomy which was a major part of their studies.

I agree with that, mostly, with the exception that Velikovsky's astronomical observation/suppositions about Venus having been a rogue planet/comet...

He argued that Venus, due to how he supposed it came to be, would have the unlikely/denied/denigrated (at the time) qualities of atmosphere, rotation, temperature and pressures etc, that we now KNOW due to better technology for astronomical observation to be true - he was vindicated, yet is still mostly denigrated...

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my post disappeared.

starting over....
I must quarrel about "better technology for astronomical observation"
as I don't think that space-roving satellites exist. But that is a topic for another thread.

I do have good confidence in Immanuel Velikovsky's history, but I reject his astronomy, which of course trusted the scientific community at that time.

For example, IV claimed that Venus was born from Jupiter as a comet.
She regularly scourged the world with fire and brimstone and fought with Mars.
Mountains were upheavaled, burning naphtha rained down on the world.

Yet humans somehow witnessed and survived the recurring catastrophes?

True laws of physics prohibit the forces that would be involved in such extravagant 'worlds in collision.'

No. Far more likely is that Advanced Beings fought each other with energy weapons.
Our deserts are their doing.
When I say 'ancient' I refer to a time not that long ago. Perhaps a hundred years.
Biblical giants, Hindu gods on flying carpets, Jack and the Beanstalk -- other myths and fairy tales told to children -- were based on real observations, then passed on to us as silly works of fiction.

You Mentioned EUT (Electric Universe Theory) earlier - I thought you may be better erudite or well versed - IV was not, Is not and never has been accepted as normal/mainstream astronomy, and yet they NOW know his predictions of Venus, pressure, temperature, rotation, wind speed, atmospheric content to be true...

Much needs not to rely on if you believe in orbiting tech, launched from Earth - much is from laser research to determine the makeup of Venus (etc) proven in Earth based, repeated and documented, measured, scientific experiments to prove the validity of laser based spectral analysis of chemicals, temperatures etc - these pieces of equipment have come on so far even a modern household might have a laser thermometer etc. and labs for farms and water/land/air quality often use such analytical tools to determine strength/weakness/pollution of the afore mentioned environs...

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"laser research to determine the makeup of Venus (etc)"
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I have as much trust in this science as I do in vaccine efficacy, climate change, tectonic plates, decomposing organic matter turning into fossil fuels. etc. etc.
Even if lasers were able to somehow test for conditions (which, not) the inverse square laws would have their beams spread out uselessly in few dozen kilometers.

Ipse dixit is the tool of the Control System.
Authority says a thing and we must accept it as reality. or truth.
And that is how humans operate.
We believe our indoctrination.
What is worse is that so many humans cooperate with the lies of politicians, government scientists, media talking heads, and countless agencies that keep us dumb, drugged, and docile (David Icke's opinion of us). 

[Munchaab]

"laser research to determine the makeup of Venus (etc)"
_ _ _ _ _
I have as much trust in this science as I do in vaccine efficacy, climate change, tectonic plates, decomposing organic matter turning into fossil fuels. etc. etc.
Even if lasers were able to somehow test for conditions (which, not) the inverse square laws would have their beams spread out uselessly in few dozen kilometers.

Ipse dixit is the tool of the Control System.
Authority says a thing and we must accept it as reality. or truth.
And that is how humans operate.
We believe our indoctrination.
What is worse is that so many humans cooperate with the lies of politicians, government scientists, media talking heads, and countless agencies that keep us dumb, drugged, and docile (David Icke's opinion of us). 

What may come across as annoying to some is you argue scientific theories without scientific basis, then denigrate the scientific laws (not opinion/projection, that is not science) testing your suppositions with little if any understanding of science...

Inverse square law is about dissipation of energetic strength over distance travelled from source - LIGHT is both wave and particle (Duality Principle) so LASER (as light from far of stars) can still penetrate many more light years than a mere wave of energy might muster...

Venus is mere light minutes away so not really a big issue - but then I forget, you don't believe in planets being orbs that rotate or the Sun/stars being real or really far away - you believe that eventually, Cats will push everything off of our "Flat Earth"...

The code in your post clearly also shows you are copy pasting shit, maybe because you have no other clue and have to web-search copy/pasta in response..?

Either way, or any way - I let myself down, I trusted you may have a "Brand New Bag" and would be worth debating with - but nah, unfortunately, still like playing chess with a Cockerel...

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"laser research to determine the makeup of Venus (etc)"
_ _ _ _ _
I have as much trust in this science as I do in vaccine efficacy, climate change, tectonic plates, decomposing organic matter turning into fossil fuels. etc. etc.
Even if lasers were able to somehow test for conditions (which, not) the inverse square laws would have their beams spread out uselessly in few dozen kilometers.

Ipse dixit is the tool of the Control System.
Authority says a thing and we must accept it as reality. or truth.
And that is how humans operate.
We believe our indoctrination.
What is worse is that so many humans cooperate with the lies of politicians, government scientists, media talking heads, and countless agencies that keep us dumb, drugged, and docile (David Icke's opinion of us). 

What may come across as annoying to some is you argue scientific theories without scientific basis, then denigrate the scientific laws (not opinion/projection, that is not science) testing your suppositions with little if any understanding of science...

Inverse square law is about dissipation of energetic strength over distance travelled from source - LIGHT is both wave and particle (Duality Principle) so LASER (as light from far of stars) can still penetrate many more light years than a mere wave of energy might muster...

Venus is mere light minutes away so not really a big issue - but then I forget, you don't believe in planets being orbs that rotate or the Sun/stars being real or really far away - you believe that eventually, Cats will push everything off of our "Flat Earth"...

The code in your post clearly also shows you are copy pasting shit, maybe because you have no other clue and have to web-search copy/pasta in response..?

Either way, or any way - I let myself down, I trusted you may have a "Brand New Bag" and would be worth debating with - but nah, unfortunately, still like playing chess with a Cockerel...

You "let yourself down" when you engage me? with great prejudice, I might add.
Why can't you just ignore my threads? 
And why must you insult me constantly? playing chess with a birdbrain? gee. 

When I copy/paste I use quotation marks and acknowledge my sources.

Your science is based entirely on the aforementioned ipse dixit Science.
Venus is "mere light minutes away"?
Ipse dixit, zero empirical data, based on an impossible method of triangulation.

Your debate manners are mostly ad hominems and distracting to my thesis of a digital reality.
I know you want me gone. You will have to get rid of me the old-fashioned way.

Last, the cats metaphor. I am quite sure that you know better. 
How does one push off objects on an infinite plane? as if Flat Earth is a disk?????
There is no edge. Why do you say there is?

Your spinning ball model, btw, defies true laws of physics. Like the real centrifugal force.
A rotational speed of 1000 mph would indeed throw everything off, unlike your cat.
Not to mention the globe's orbital speed, 66,600 mph.
And a gaseous atmosphere adjacent to a total vacuum, despite the lack of a contained volume.
Air pressure is obtained by confining mass per volume. P = m÷ v

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The thread needs an outline to organize the many disparate topics.
A very rough one might be

I. the Aether, Electric Universe, a computer program
  A. Universal torus
  B. stacked universes inside the torus, the Pancake Model

II. the Pleroma of Gnosticism
   A. Sophia/Gaia/Mother Earth
   B. Uranus/Father Sky
   C. Titans
   D. the Demiurge, Archons, evil beings who despise and persecute humans

III. Worlds/Realms of our universal plane
   A. Terra
   B. Nibiru? home of Anunnaki 
   C. _ _ _ 

IV. World Ages
   A. Golden Age, Garden of Eden
   B. Silver Age, when beings from other realms invaded Terra and created empires
        !. Atlantis, Mu
        2. Tartaria
   C. Bronze, Iron, Space

I have no confidence in any of that organization. We know nothing for sure.
The freemasons who work with the evil ones do allow us to see true things.
Their code of "honor" < cough cough >
Their real mission is to control us and spoil our original pure design.

https://chris-h-hardy.com/wars-anunnaki-...ent-sumer/

WARS OF THE ANUNNAKI: Nuclear Self-Destruction in Ancient Sumer

by Chris Hardy


WARS OF THE ANUNNAKI: Nuclear Self-Destruction in Ancient Sumer
by Chris Hardy | Nov 25, 2017 | Books Presentations |
 

[b]WARS OF THE ANUNNAKI[/b] : Nuclear Self-destruction in ancient Sumer (Chris H. Hardy) analyzes the Anunnaki decision to nuke 5 cities in the Jordan plain, resulting in the obliteration of Sumerian civilization.

* Examines the Anunnaki gods’ evolving relationships with humanity, their power struggles, and the details of their nuclear war on Earth

 • Draws upon the work of Zecharia Sitchin, the Book of Genesis, Sumerian clay tablets, and archaeological evidence such as ancient radioactive skeletons

 • Examines the Anunnakis’ lack of higher consciousness, their reliance on technology, their sacred power objects and sacred geometry, and the possibility of Anunnaki bases on Mars in the distant past

 The detonation of nuclear weapons in the 20th century was not the first time humanity has seen such terrible destruction. Drawing upon the work of Zecharia Sitchin, the Book of Genesis, Sumerian clay tablets, and archaeological evidence such as ancient radioactive skeletons, Chris Hardy reveals the ancient nuclear event that destroyed the Sumerian civilization and the power struggles of the “gods” that led up to it.

 The Anunnaki came to Earth from the planet Nibiru seeking gold to repair their ozone layer. Using genetic engineering, they created modern humanity to do their mining work and installed themselves as our kings and our gods. Anunnaki god Enki had a fatherly relationship with the first two humans. Then Enlil, Enki’s brother, took over as Commander of Earth, instating a sole-god theocracy and a war against the clan of Enki and humanity for spoiling the Anunnaki bloodlines through interbreeding. This shift imposed a blackout not only of the very human nature of the Anunnaki “gods” but also of humanity’s own ancient past on Earth.